Michael and Dustin are back, discussing taxes, the Howard Stern show, Jay Leno, project cars, Dustin's film set woes, and more!
Now here is the AI description as Shakespeare would have written it:
Hark! Tax season, a tempest of tumult, where amidst the whirlwind of last-minute record-keeping, one finds themselves in the clutches of a dire revelation: a staggering debt owed to none other than Uncle Sam himself, a sum as weighty as $29,000. Oh, the dread that grips the heart!
Let us discourse, then, on the financial tightrope of freelance existence, the cunning ploy of hoarding earnings, and the curious satisfaction derived from year-end indulgences, born of an excess of caution. Furthermore, we shall divulge an ancient tale, perchance familiar from our earlier discourse.
In the theatre of life, where comedy and tragedy dance in perpetual motion, there strides Artie Lange, his journey a tapestry woven with threads of mirth and melancholy, a poignant reminder of the delicate equilibrium between notoriety and inner demons. Our gaze also alights upon the evolving panorama of celebrity interviews, drawing upon my own musical odyssey to dissect the oft-repeated rituals of such encounters, fueled by an unquenchable ardor for live performance.
As we draw the curtains, prepare to embark upon a voyage of nostalgia, as a quest for the restoration of a classic chariot unfolds before us. The dilemma of choosing between a chariot of sport and a carriage of utility for labor unfurls into a narrative enriched with lessons of security and the specter of thievery. We shall delve into the intricate realm of mentorship in the workplace, the sting of office politics, and the solace discovered within the confines of a harmonious editing alliance, capable of fashioning or shattering the very essence of a project. It is a symphony of anecdotes from the crossroads of vocation, creativity, and camaraderie, all presented with the unvarnished sincerity befitting our discourse. Prepare thyself for tales not merely spoken, but lived.
Michael and Dustin are back, discussing taxes, the Howard Stern show, Jay Leno, project cars, Dustin's film set woes, and more!
Now here is the AI description as Shakespeare would have written it:
Hark! Tax season, a tempest of tumult, where amidst the whirlwind of last-minute record-keeping, one finds themselves in the clutches of a dire revelation: a staggering debt owed to none other than Uncle Sam himself, a sum as weighty as $29,000. Oh, the dread that grips the heart!
Let us discourse, then, on the financial tightrope of freelance existence, the cunning ploy of hoarding earnings, and the curious satisfaction derived from year-end indulgences, born of an excess of caution. Furthermore, we shall divulge an ancient tale, perchance familiar from our earlier discourse.
In the theatre of life, where comedy and tragedy dance in perpetual motion, there strides Artie Lange, his journey a tapestry woven with threads of mirth and melancholy, a poignant reminder of the delicate equilibrium between notoriety and inner demons. Our gaze also alights upon the evolving panorama of celebrity interviews, drawing upon my own musical odyssey to dissect the oft-repeated rituals of such encounters, fueled by an unquenchable ardor for live performance.
As we draw the curtains, prepare to embark upon a voyage of nostalgia, as a quest for the restoration of a classic chariot unfolds before us. The dilemma of choosing between a chariot of sport and a carriage of utility for labor unfurls into a narrative enriched with lessons of security and the specter of thievery. We shall delve into the intricate realm of mentorship in the workplace, the sting of office politics, and the solace discovered within the confines of a harmonious editing alliance, capable of fashioning or shattering the very essence of a project. It is a symphony of anecdotes from the crossroads of vocation, creativity, and camaraderie, all presented with the unvarnished sincerity befitting our discourse. Prepare thyself for tales not merely spoken, but lived.
I don't know, I don't think I know how to do an intro. I can't Hi everybody. I'm Dustin there it was.
Speaker 2:There it is I know you plan?
Speaker 1:that I'm really hosting the hell out of this.
Speaker 2:That was a good intro. I like the the irony. I think you're going for an ironic kind of opening there.
Speaker 1:Sure, How's your week, buddy?
Speaker 2:I mean you've been been up to well. It's tax week for me and I haven't started and my appointment with my cpa is on tuesday, so I think sunday and monday are going to be pure hell.
Speaker 1:How much do you pay for a cpa? 500 bucks once a year? Yeah, you're paying them, like every month or what, once a year how? Do you record keep for the 12 months?
Speaker 2:oh, I do. It's. My record keeping is fairly straightforward. Um, it takes me like two days to kind of compile all the work that I didn't do throughout the year, but my, my invoicing software and the software that I use for my contracts and all that stuff. It does a pretty good job of just keeping track of everything. Uh, I just have to go through and find all my expenses, because those aren't attached to like a credit card in that system or anything. So I just have to like go through all the places that I normally buy shit from, like Amazon, paypal, ebay, like and just kind of go through line by line and make sure that I have recorded that transit excuse me that expense, um, so that I can so that it gets written off appropriately, um, and that usually takes me like a day or two, so it's not. It's really not that bad, but I just hate it so much that because it's like no matter what I do, I always end up owing, which is really the smart way to go about things.
Speaker 1:You really don't want to give the government an interest-free loan, but uh it's not that smart, because if you end up getting stuck at the end of the year with an amount of money that you can't raise, it's a fucking disaster, and if you do it two years in a row it's even worse.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, you don't want to get stuck with like a twenty thousand dollar tax bill or something like that, but if it's like three thousand or something, then I'm like okay, like whatever. Um, but yeah, I mean, I will say, the first time I ever ran my business and then filed, they were like you owe twenty nine thousand, like it was insane, and I was like, yeah, I was like you're like oh no, I've made a grievous error I've made. I that was. That was so awful.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget that feeling, that was a big tax bill from 2013, which was my best year ever, and uh, I just uh didn't appropriately save for it and I ended up going on a payment plan with the IRS. And what was wild is, at the time they were like, well, what can you afford? And they set my payment amount. They let me pick the amount. So I was just like I don't know, like a hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you pick the amount and they picked the interest rate.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, so the way it worked is like, um, you know, just paying the amount that I had to pay according to the agreement, I would have paid it off in like 300 years, so like it was literally never going to get paid. So I basically just paid a hundred dollars a month for like a bunch of years until I sold my house and then I had money from selling a house and I just paid it off then. But I just made that payment for like a couple of years in a row.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you, probably I was just cause I owed like I don't know 12 grand or something and I paid a hundred dollars a month for like two years and still owed like eleven thousand nine hundred dollars yeah, like I made like no debt right because it is the irs is a lot like a credit card company in the sense like they operate the same way.
Speaker 2:Basically they're like, oh, you have this debt, we'll let you pay it off really slowly yeah but you'll never get into a subscription that never ends right right I've definitely heard stories of people owing 20 grand and then nine years later, they still owe 20 grand, or worse, they owe like 23 grand right, exactly, it's like it went up after never missing a payment yeah, it went up after a decade of making payments and you realize like oh, this is a money-making scheme yeah, so I I started putting aside 30 and then still came up short one year.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, I have to put aside 40, what? What is even the point of working?
Speaker 2:that doesn't even. That doesn't sound right. It should be more like it was outrageous.
Speaker 1:Um, it is outrageous, dude the problem a lot of factors.
Speaker 2:The only thing I I am getting.
Speaker 1:I'd rather save 40 and then, at the end of the year, be like oh, I can buy a camera and three lenses because I over saved. Yeah, yeah, I get that, instead of being like, oh, the's going to butt fuck me now. Yeah, because I undersaved.
Speaker 2:Well, they're going to do it anyway, because you're going to buy that camera and three lenses and you're going to pay fucking sales tax. Yeah Well, that's a different government, that's your local government coming for you. How convenient? Yeah, let's just set up like nine more different types of government. While we're at it yeah, we don't have enough oversight oh, so you never told me about what happened, because and I don't know if you even want to talk about this- about yesterday, about what I called you about in the morning. Yeah, All right.
Speaker 1:Well, so here's the question Did we talk about the, the original incident? Did that come up on the podcast last week? I don't remember.
Speaker 2:I can't remember, but I feel like it might've. I don't know, let's just talk to it. Can we pause?
Speaker 1:this and you go listen to the entire episode from last week, because I don't want to tell the story twice. All right, I'll just sell it, just summarize it. And then you edit this out.
Speaker 2:Summarize it, I've heard Joe Rogan tell the same story nine times.
Speaker 1:So there's a guy who yeah, no, I know that's one of the reasons I stopped listening to him. Like after like a year or two, you're like okay, I've heard this same thing with howard stern. Every story he tells about his childhood, he just repeats it like every three months every story he has. So you've heard it over and over and over again for fucking 20 years that's a road I need to go.
Speaker 2:I need to go down that. I gotta go down the howard stern road because I've never, I've never listened to him, so I bet there's like a whole catalog that I could probably enjoy? Or is it not really like if?
Speaker 1:you really get into it. Um, if you really get into it, you can get like super obsessed and it could be like a year or two before you kind of are just like, oh, I'm just like a regular fan now, but they're. They're like, when I got into it like a year, like a year into it, I just became like this is the greatest thing I've ever found in my whole life. It gets really addicting. And then you start going and listen to old shit. I mean, he's been doing it for like 50 years, so, like there's, you go listen to old stuff. It's a completely different show than it is now, but it's also still really good and there's a lot of backstory and stuff. But all those old stories will seem new to you for like a couple of years. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I bet some of it's like a time capsule, because he has interviews with people who aren't like alive anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I mean, to me, the best, the best era was when Artie Lang was on the show with him and that's like been I don't know 15 years ago or something like it's been a long time since Artie was around and those are the best years. So, like you want to go, you want to go on YouTube and listen to like 2008 shows and stuff, like when he first got to satellite radio. That to me, was kind of the golden era. I don't know what was Artie?
Speaker 2:Lang famous for. All I know is that he had a major addiction problem. That's all I know about him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he still does. In fact, I don't know if you've seen him lately. He fucked up his whole nose. He was using a glass salt shaker to crunch up some cocaine in a hotel room.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the right way to do it.
Speaker 1:And what he didn't realize is that the glass had like broken or something and so he got crunched up glass in the cocaine and then he snorted it and so he snorted all these little glass shards and he got like it cut him up and he got like an infection and whatever. And when you look at him now like he has like a majorly, majorly deformed nose. He's been out of the public eye for a couple years now. Um, he did a little stint in jail for like a year, uh, for narcotics possession. Uh, the Howard Stern will never talk to him ever again Cause he um, you know he uh, he got real fucked up on heroin and kind of didn't come to work for a while and, um, after that Howard was like all right, I'll just never talk to you ever again. Um, but already was original like the first thing. His first week break he was on like the first or second season, first two seasons maybe of mad TV, Um, and then he had a movie and he's been a standup comic the whole time. So you know he's had a standup career. But I mean really what made him big? Honestly, I think the biggest thing he did was when he was actually on the Stern show and the way that went down was, um, Norm MacDonald was a guest and Norman already had, uh, become friends from I don't know working on a movie together or something like that, and they became best friends cause they were both fucking degenerate gamblers and so they were drinking and gambling and making each other laugh and blah, blah, blah. And so Norm brought Artie onto the Stern show and the two of them just like, were fucking really funny, and Howard ended up inviting uh Artie back a couple of times and there was, um, God, like we're really getting into the history here.
Speaker 1:I don't know if anyone cares about this, but there's a guy that was on the Stern show in the early days named uh, Jackie Martling, Jackie the joke man, and he was on it for the first I don't know two decades or something. But eventually he wasn't happy with his pay, so we held out for more money and in the end of that he basically they just let him go and they never hired him back, and so they always called it the, the Jackie chair, like, basically, like there's an empty spot on this show where it used to be Jackie's and so they just brought in a bunch of different comedians. They would have like a different comedian come in every week and kind of sit in the Jackie chair and so already set in the Jackie chair and killed it and was just so good that he ended up getting the chair kind of full time and I don't know, he was there for like a decade or I don't know, maybe it was less than that, Maybe it was four years, I don't know, Um, but I think that's when he got really famous cause he just he's, he's one of the fucking funniest people you'll ever hear on radio. Um, and then when that all went to shit cause it was drug problem, you know he, he rebounded and had you know a podcast or two or three, and they all go really well for like a year and then he gets fucked up and everything falls apart. It's gone dark.
Speaker 1:And this last time, after he went to prison, he's, I think he does some stand-up, um, but like as part of his parole he can't leave, like his one city. So like he's stuck where he is and he seems to completely left the internet, like he doesn't do any kind of social media, like nobody knows anything about him. And uh, people ask the guy that used to be his partner on his most recent podcast, but apparently he like stole a bunch of money from that guy, so like they're not super close anymore. It's dark stuff, but he is one of the fucking funniest people of all time. I mean he, when he tells a story, it's god, there's, there's just nothing.
Speaker 1:I miss him. I miss him a lot. I mean I listen to his podcast every episode and just he also did that thing we were talking about earlier where he got to the point where he was repeating himself. I mean, you know, he was strung out on heroin, so I don't think he really was conscious of it, but he would like start working out a bit and then he would do the same fucking bit on every single like 10 podcasts in a row and you're like all right, come on, dude. You did this for like 30 minutes last time and you're still doing it and it got a little, got a little repetitive. Anyway, I don't know why we're fucking talking about this. You should cut me off at some point.
Speaker 2:No, I was interested. I mean, I know that you're a Howard Stern fan and I just we're called super fans.
Speaker 1:We're called super fans. Okay, yeah, like if you meet another one in public or whatever, you don't even have to mention Howard, you just go. Hey, you're a super fan. Yeah, I'm a super fan. Anyway, i'll'll move to you. Uh, yeah, I don't know if you'd like it or not, I love it. Um, a lot of people that are fans of the old show hate the new show. Um, because he's gotten like with there's been a dramatic shift in his interviews. Like basically, he got to a point where he just wanted to be able to interview more famous people and, uh, do more serious interviews. So a lot of this stuff, like a lot of the hijinks that made him famous early on like early on.
Speaker 1:It was basically like hey, every single guest that comes in here um has to ride.
Speaker 2:If they never come back, they have to ride, they have to ride the sibian.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know that. Then he realized he wouldn't know about that he wasn't gonna get taylor swift to ride it, so yeah, exactly so he was like maybe we lose the sibian, but we get taylor swift in here to talk about her yeah, he wanted to have, you know, jennifer aniston come in, so now he does and some, a lot of people say he's like the greatest interviewer of all time and he's, he is good but he wanted her to come in, not come on exactly now that it's like 10 years, uh, into it.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of over the interviews, especially like he, you know he's trying to, he's trying to live his childhood dreams or whatever, so he's constantly interviewing these like 75 year old rock stars and like I just don't, like it's not my generation, I just don't care. You know, like he had, um, you, um, you know, like Crosby, stills, nash and Young. He had each of those guys on separately. It was the exact same fucking interview with the exact same fucking stories and, honestly, if you showed me those four guys, I could not tell you which is which. I have no idea which one is Nash, I have no idea which one is Stills, I have no idea. Like I just don't give a shit. And so he's had you know the guys from the who and somebody you know the, the, the Rolling Stones and and like all those you know 75 year old, 80 year old dudes and like I just don't give a shit. And he's clearly not a real musician. Um, so like, not that I'm like a brilliant musician or whatever, but okay, I, you know, I, I minored in music in college. I was in band all the way from junior high through high school. I played piano as a kid and, like again, I'm a terrible musician, but I know enough about music that when I hear his interviews it's just like oh my God, it's so embarrassing.
Speaker 1:And the way way he just like doesn't know anything about it, to the point where he asks he just asked the wrong questions. That just like indicate that he just doesn't know. And then like he's he's obsessed with like so how do you, how do you write a song? Do you write the music first? You write the lyrics first. And it's like, dude, you've asked that to every single musician that's ever come on your show, to the point where I'm tired of fucking hearing that question. Yeah, because it's not that it's not that interesting or whatever, they're just constantly. Or like how do you memorize all the lyrics? Like that's not really an issue, man, you know you wrote the song, you're going to practice it, you're going to it. It's not. And he asked that to actors too.
Speaker 2:How do you learn all the lines?
Speaker 1:Cause it's your fucking job. You rehearse.
Speaker 2:People, is it the? Hardest thing about acting, memorizing your lines Like no, not really yeah you have this vision of like these people that just come out and they just walk On stage and play some song and but like You're, you don't realize. It's like oh yeah, you played like this same song Like 20 hours this week.
Speaker 1:Or like you rehearsed.
Speaker 2:You rehearsed 20 hours this week, this whole set. It's not like you just walked on stage and gave a great performance. You fucking sat there, you did the vocal warm-ups. You fucking like went through the set list nine times. You rearranged how you were gonna play it. You played it with the band like it's this whole thing you've been.
Speaker 1:And then you had to play the same song every single night. Yep, for fucking nine months a year, for 30 years in a row. Yeah, like, oh, how do I know it? Because I've played it 55. And there's another thing. I mean you were never in a band, but I'll just tell you there's a thing that I was there to the rescue you ever heard.
Speaker 1:To the rescue no, what is that? That was my band. Oh, you were in a band. Would you play drums? Yeah, oh, so I guess you have told me that, cause somewhere in the back of my mind I knew that you played drums, all right. So there's a thing that that that, uh, people like to say that is one live show, is is is equal to 10 rehearsals. Like, because there's a live audience there, there's so much more pressure on you and your brain is, you know, like it. The stakes are so much higher that you're concentrating so much harder and you don't have that like, hey, we could just stop and start over. If we fuck up like that whole the show must go on thing, it intensifies that experience, the so that one show is as valuable as 10 practices. And so if you're actually on tour and you're playing every single night, seven nights a week, that's like you're having 70 rehearsals a week, plus you actually did have a rehearsal before each show because of sound check.
Speaker 2:It's like, and plus a real, actual rehearsal pretty good damn good at playing those songs yeah, I mean, they really go fucking through it over and over and over like it's not. Yeah, it's actually not that glamorous. I guess, when you think about it, it's got to be so fucking obnoxious.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I could do that job.
Speaker 2:Imagine writing a song where you're like you get. You start playing it so much that you're like, fuck, I wish I had never written this goddamn song, dude do you think billy joel wants to play, saying this is a song?
Speaker 1:you're the piano man.
Speaker 2:He's been playing it for 50 fucking years I've heard of some artists being like yeah, I don't do that one anymore like I can't, I just can't bring myself to do it anymore yeah, I need a bonus one million dollars for that song.
Speaker 1:I I just, I just hate it yeah, yeah yeah, that could you imagine being a metallica and having to go play enter sandman again or not even that like a song from you know, creeping death. Like a song that you wrote when you're 18 years old and now you're, you know, you're in your mid sixties. You've been playing the fucking song, but like God, but at the same time, like if you're Metallica, you can't not play master puppets or you'll have a fucking riot, like you have to. There's certain songs they just have to play. They have to play one at every single concert. They have to play master puppets at every concert they have to play, you know, at every concert they have to play, you know who's the puppet?
Speaker 1:it's a trap dude and comedians talk about the flip side, how like, oh, they can't tell the same joke twice. So like you write a, you write material, you go tour it for a year, you do, you put it on film and put out your special, and now you have to start all over and it's and you have to do that every year, every other year, for your entire fucking life. Every year, they go through the crisis of oh god, how am I possibly going to come up with new material?
Speaker 1:it's better to just get on a podcast and say the same shit over and over again two sides of a coin, I guess.
Speaker 2:I mean, would you rather be the one who comes up with the thing once and has to play it forever? Or would you be, would you rather be the one who always has to come up with new stuff, but you never have to do the same thing forever?
Speaker 1:personally, I'd rather be the one that always has to come up with new stuff. And also there's Jerry Seinfeld has a different approach that I think might be the happy medium that is not what I hear a lot of comedians talk about which is he rotates stuff in and out. So at any given time his set is, like, you know, 50% new and 50% old and he'll just be like, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to put in five new minutes, I'll take out five old minutes. So he's always got some stuff that he knows is going to work and uh, and he's also always trying out some new stuff. So it's like an evolved. He never has like an act exactly like, like you know, he doesn't have like oh, here's my, here's my hour, here's my new hour, you know.
Speaker 1:But he also has been very reluctant to put out specials. You know he'll put out like a special every decade, where the new model for standup comedians is to put out a special every year, which is also part of why specials aren't that good anymore. A lot of fucking specials are just 10 minutes in. You're like all right, I haven't laughed once. I got to turn the shit off, cause they cause they're they're not sitting long enough. And then there's other comedians that, um, they'll like, uh, they'll come up with an hour and then they'll never put out a special and they'll tour on that same hour for like decades. And uh, that's not good either, cause you know, you'll they'll be telling political jokes from like three presidents ago. And uh, you know who's never put out a special ever and it's supposedly one of the greatest comedians that have ever lived Jay Leno's never had a special I saw.
Speaker 2:I saw Jay Leno live. I did you really, yeah, he came to our little our little downtown, uh, pike's peak center here in Colorado Springs. How was it? It was good. I laughed. I was like I was like I don't know, because I had seen aziz at the same venue and I was like that was good. And then I was like and then kate was like, hey, I got us tickets to cj leno and I was like, okay, I didn't know what to expect, but he's like, he's funny, he's he's an older.
Speaker 1:Really funny, he's an older dude, dad. It's kind of dad jokes a little bit.
Speaker 2:It's a little Bob Hope, but it's funny. It's like timeless funny when it's like, oh, he can get up there and not swear a bunch and be funny and still be like an old dude who you respect and you think is funny. Yeah, he's great at it.
Speaker 1:You know, I was just thinking late last night. I uh, you know, I worked 12 hours yesterday. I got home and started watching youtube and smoking a little weed and um, I, uh, I realized that I'm I'm ready to forgive jay leno. Like when the whole conan o'brien stuff went down, I took conan's side and just was like, all right, I guess I'm done with jay leno. But the truth is like I always liked jay leno before and part of me understood jay's side of the whole jay conan thing. Like if you look at it only from his point of view, I'm kind of like yeah, he got screwed too.
Speaker 1:Like I kind of get it um well I don't think any of those people are in control it was just so nasty that I just kind of was like done with jay leno for a while. But you know, what got me back is I've been watching his car show, like I guess he's been doing jay's garage for like a lot of years now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been going for a while well, they're now throwing them all on youtube, or maybe they are. They have it's been going for a while. Well, they're now throwing them all on youtube, or maybe they are. They have been throwing on youtube for a while and the algorithm just found me. But I've been watching those. I've been watching jay's garage on youtube and it's like it's a pretty fun little show and like I'm not really a car guy, but it's got me feeling like a car guy All of a sudden.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, maybe I should get a project car going and build my own sports car for the next 10 years, which is like something I was super into in high school. And then I bought a 1980 Formula Firebird, which I told everyone was a 1979 Trans Am, because nobody knows the difference. The 79 Trans Am is significantly more valuable because that's the Smokey and the Bandit car. But if you get a 1980 Formula Firebird, it looks like the same fucking car. The fact that it's Formula instead of Trans Am just means it's like a slightly smaller engine, and the fact there's 1980 instead of 1979, like maybe the headlights look a little bit different, but other than that it's the same fucking car. Um, yeah, so that was like a dream of mine. And, um, I, I, so my, I wanted to buy this car real bad. I looked and looked and looked for one. My budget was $2,000. So it had to be like a project car that I had to fix up. I found one in Dallas.
Speaker 1:I was living in Houston at the time I'm 17, I think in high school and the my manager, um, I think his name was Jimmy or James oh, his name was James and he, uh, was also a car guy, and I was talking to him about it and he was like, I'll go get the car with you. So I skipped school. One day I rented a U-Haul trailer and James took me in his truck up to Dallas and I bought this Trans Am and I brought it home and I put it in uh, I put it at my girlfriend's next door neighbor's house. So my girlfriend's neighbors are this elderly couple and half the year they lived in some other state, so I kept it in their driveway.
Speaker 1:I worked on it every day after school for months, months and months and months. Every weekend and every day after school I just like, hey, I'm, you know, I'm going to my girlfriend's house and I would just be over there, you know, turning wrenches on that thing and replacing parts and getting it driving. And then, uh, I had enough money to get it, get the body work kind of done and get it primed, but I didn't have any money to get it painted. And the deal with my mom was she was she, she was going to give me $2,000 if I could raise $2,000 so I could buy a $4,000 car. And she wanted me to get like a Honda civic or something like super smart and super dependable and reliable. But you know, I wanted this car or whatever. So, anyway, what I worked on as far as I could until I just totally ran out of money and, um, and it was time to get it painted and I was like, all right, I guess I'm going to tell my mom that I'm thinking about buying this car that I already own so I can get that two grand from her.
Speaker 1:I went to our family mechanic and I told the guy hey, I bought this car. Um, my mom's going to come ask you. I don't know, I'm not going to tell her, I already bought it. I'm going to tell her I'm thinking about buy it. My mom's going to come ask you about it and you've got to just tell her it's a good car and that you checked it out and there's nothing wrong with it, and you can't say anything else Cause I already bought it.
Speaker 1:I'm really, I really need you to. And he was like I am not comfortable with this, I am not lying to your mom, I've known your, your father, since high school. Like, uh, this is, I'm not comfortable with this and I just go, you'll do the right thing. And I walked out and my mom went over there and the guy was like, oh, I think you better let him get this car. He seems pretty into it and, you know, it's pretty serviceable if he wants to work on it, blah, blah, whatever. So then I I I brought the car home for the first time like seven months after I bought it and was like look what I bought today.
Speaker 1:And that was when I was 17. And so, anyway, after that now it was driving it was painted red. Um, it fucking broke down. Every fucking week. Every fucking week some part broke on it that I had to replace. There was one part that broke like five times before I finally realized what was causing it to break over and over and had to replace that. Also, it had T tops and I replaced all the weather stripping on the T tops, but even with the new weather stripping it didn't work because the body wasn't straight anymore. So every time it rained it was like I was in a water park, so I would just get fucking completely soaking wet. There was no passenger seat, so, like if my girlfriend was in the car with me, she sat in the back seat and then she could just have her legs all the way forward up next to me yeah, and your wife?
Speaker 2:now, that was your wife no, no, no I didn't meet my wife until like a decade after. Yeah, no, I met my wife.
Speaker 1:That up no, after call no, this was my. High school sweetheart Wow.
Speaker 2:Sorry about that. I'm sorry, I know Rachel.
Speaker 1:Sorry, rachel.
Speaker 2:I know you're listening. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:She's never once listened to this and she never will.
Speaker 1:You know like I love how neither of our families or wives, or anybody who knows that nobody gives any fucking interest in listening to this well, most to be fair, the vast majority of people that I know but if your wife was doing a podcast, would you be like? Let me go, let me fucking see what the fuck she's saying she probably assumes we're just talking about videography stuff. She doesn't know that I'm like constantly divulging personal details about our marriage and sex life uh, okay well that was a good car story.
Speaker 2:Is it over, or does it keep going for a long time?
Speaker 1:Well, so I fixed the car like every week for like a year or two. I had the car for like two and eventually I got over it and so I decided to sell the car and just buy something more dependable and just a basic ass regular car and I listed it on eBay and then it sold. And then the day the auction on eBay closed I got T-boned in an intersection and totaled the car. So I had to cancel the eBay thing and then I sold it to somebody locally but I ended up selling the car, smashed in half, to a guy that owned a body shop and was going to fix it up or whatever. I sold it for almost the same price. I paid for it. Like I bought the car for $1,900. And then, okay, I spent probably three grand fixing it up, but I sold the car for $1,700 after it was totaled.
Speaker 1:Not bad, could have been worse, also because that car just wanted to go fast. Just, there was just no. If you touch the gas it would only get faster. There was no ability in this car to maintain speed unless you were like taking your foot off and on the gas, like you know, kind of like making yourself sick or whatever If you just held your foot on the gas at all, it would get faster and faster, and faster and faster, and so I got seven speeding tickets in one year in that fucking thing. So then my next car was a baby blue, powder blue Ford contour that went zero to 60 in about three months. I mean the fucking slowest car it was like to the point where it was dangerous coming on an on-ramp to get on the highway.
Speaker 2:You're just like a yeah, you're like a fucking turtle trying to get on the highway.
Speaker 1:It was great for me at the time because I had a lead foot, I was a very impulsive young man and this car put a stop to my speeding tickets because it was impossible to speed in it, because it took you I mean flooring it for five minutes to get over the speed limit. It was, you know, but I it kind of like I I got it out of my system with that Trans Am, with that Firebird, I mean that whole wanting to be a car guy thing. But now that I'm watching Jay Leno again, I want to build a fucking Shelby Cobra.
Speaker 2:You either have to have a lot of skill or a lot of money to be a car guy.
Speaker 1:A lot of money and a lot of time. That's. The other thing is, how am I ever gonna build a project car and try to make a movie? You know what I mean? It's kind of one or the other. Well, I think the key is you need to work on that thing every weekend, and for an hour every day, and four hours every saturday and eight hours every sunday, like for three years in a row.
Speaker 2:You definitely could make a movie in that time well, you have to have a, well, you have to have a weight bench in your driveway. So you, like I do, you work on the, you work on the car and then you go pump some iron.
Speaker 1:Yeah, turn some iron and pump some iron.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's the only way that works.
Speaker 1:Well, the other thing I mean that would make it a significantly better experience is actually having the money to throw at it all the time without it ruining your life, like if you have like a grown man's income and you can manage it, that would make it a whole lot better. And if it's not your daily driver, like this I was trying to make this my daily driver and get to work and stuff and it was breaking down on me all the time. It's a completely different story if you got the Subaru ready to rock and roll and then you have your project car, and if it works today, cool. And if it doesn't work today, you're not going to lose your job over it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the thing I realized about because I like old cars, I like old Range Rovers, I like old Ferraris, like that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who doesn't? But?
Speaker 2:it's like you can't make it your everyday car because there's a fucking reason. These people you see these people loading these cars onto trailers you know what I mean Like they're not driving them around. They're Shuttling them around to be seen or to then drive them, but I can't tell you how many times I've been in. Aspen and I've seen the Ferrari GT, the 86 Ferrari GTO that I love so much, on the side of the road and there's Like broken down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's like broken down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's like nine like lambos next to it and they're all just try it like standing around trying to figure out what to do next it's because it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like who's trailer?
Speaker 2:yeah, whose trailer are we gonna load this on to? That's the real question, because it that's a whole different world of like. This is not a reliable vehicle. This is a fun project it's a never-ending fucking project. And part of the exhilaration of owning a car like that is I'm driving through aspen right now. I don't know if I'm gonna make it to Snowmass.
Speaker 1:What I really think that is more likely to happen is to buy a surprisingly affordable older Porsche Boxster, like a 2003 Porsche Boxster that you can get for under $10,000. That is something that I think actually would be practical and fun. For one thing, people took care of them because they're porsches, so, generally speaking, they're for their age, lower mileage and and well maintained. Um, but just everybody that has a porsche just talks about how much fun they are to drive and I think why not a 911?
Speaker 1:what? Why not? Yeah, because I'm poor. Oh okay, because I don't, because it's not fun. I don't care enough to spend 50 or 100 000, but I think it's fun enough to spend 10 000 on. Because it's a third car, it's a weekend driver. It's mostly going to sit there and then every once in a while we're going to go on a date or something. Me and the wife will be like let's go to dinner in the Porsche.
Speaker 2:That's why I like the little rat rod roadsters or whatever, the little two-seaters that have no seatbelts.
Speaker 1:And they kind of look ridiculous, but that's a good date night car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just a toy. It's a fun thing to do. We live close enough to downtown that we take the roadster out it has. Well, listen, if we get hit in an intersection, we're done, but if we make it, if we get t-boned, we're dead. But if we make it to dinner, we eat a t-bone. That's how you sell it to the life, exactly. Do you want to eat a t-bone? That's how you sell it to the life, exactly.
Speaker 1:Do you want to eat a?
Speaker 2:T-bone or not, bitch.
Speaker 1:I feel at this point, if I had the money to spend and I had to choose between getting a fun weekend driver sports car or getting a grip truck, I think I'd get a van and start filling it up with grip and camera equipment but you definitely wouldn't wrap it, knowing you no, because I wouldn't want to get robbed you're so like freaked out about this robbery thing.
Speaker 2:Hey, did I tell you you've obviously never been robbed. I've been wrong, I've had a car and windows smashed out and we have like violated thirty thousand dollars worth of video equipment stolen out of our fucking work truck. I'm triggered by the thought of somebody smashing. I just don't see the point in inviting extra.
Speaker 1:It's just not. It's a bad time. I don't want to have. It's a bad, I would probably. What I'd really like is a Ford Transit, the longest one they make, the tallest one they make so I can stand up inside it. And I would like it to be like a dark gray, like a charcoal or whatever color you know, with like some metallic flake, you know sparkly paint or whatever. I've seen those like that color on like a Sprinter van and it's nice looking. So it's like a notch above just having it be white, but I'm not gonna put shit all over the car.
Speaker 2:That's like, hey, there's seventy thousand dollars worth of cameras in here and only thing stopping you from having it is your ability to throw a rock at a window yeah, I could see that you obviously didn't grow up in south houston, that's the thing is, if you have a van like that and you're investing in that, invest in a garage like storage unit where you park the van, so, like when you drive to work in the morning, you're driving to a garage to get the van out of the garage, you're not parking it on the street.
Speaker 1:I have a two-car garage upstairs and a third garage downstairs.
Speaker 2:So what are you worried about?
Speaker 1:And I would park, and well, you could still get robbed when you're doing a job. The time where our car was, our windows were smashed out and we had 20, 30 000 worth of stuff stolen. We were inside a place filming, so we had 20, 30 000 worth of gear and that in the car left over after us going inside with two cameras and lenses and audio like, and we were only at the shoot for once. So what it was? We were shooting a reality show, um, in dallas, texas, the first time they hosted the super bowl, so like when jerry world was really new what was this would have been?
Speaker 1:probably 2011 maybe what?
Speaker 2:what was the name of the show?
Speaker 1:uh foam finger nation and the idea was finger nation finger. Yeah, you know, like how they have those big hands. The number one hand, yeah, it's the number one hand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like number one fan.
Speaker 1:And people wear them and wave them at basketball games.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was Foam Finger Nation. I think there's still a website. You think I haven't come across that by now. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, we have a podcast audience. That's not. You're seeing the visual of me holding my hand up in that shape.
Speaker 2:They're not. We got to make it clear for all the eight year olds that listen to this show we have a lot of idiots listening to this show because what kind of?
Speaker 1:person would waste their time with us. So, um, fuck it. So the idea was it was about. It was about to be like here's, here's how to have a fan experience, and the pilot was here's how to have, here's how to enjoy the Superbowl. And not just going to the Superbowl but like showcasing all of the all of the parties and events that happened the whole week around the Superbowl. So it was sort of a travel show, like, um, like. I think the inspiration was the art man show. I don't know if you ever saw art man, but he would just like go to conventions and walk around with the microphone. And it was on one of the first HD channels, like access TV or something. It's like not a real TV channel anyway. Um, so, yeah, we went to the playboy party hosted by Pamela Anderson.
Speaker 2:We parked in a garage, wait so you're telling me, so you got to meet her.
Speaker 1:Say what Did you? Yeah, actually, yes, we parked in a garage wait so you're telling me, so you got to meet her. Say what did you?
Speaker 2:oh, yeah, actually, yes, well, not meter, I mean, it was on the, I didn't talk, we were on, you got to see her.
Speaker 1:I think I I got to stand a few feet away from her and point a camera at her. How old was? Our guy tried to interview her, but I don't think he got a word in was this?
Speaker 2:I mean, this wasn't baywatch here, this was post-Baywatch.
Speaker 1:No, when Baywatch was on.
Speaker 2:I was in fucking kindergarten. Yeah, that's why I'm saying that. I'm just saying for the eight-year-olds listening, who don't know.
Speaker 1:This was 2011. So if you want to go Google Pam Anderson's age, you can do the math for yourself.
Speaker 2:She didn't look great, I had a pretty big crush on her. I think she still looks pretty good, given the situation.
Speaker 1:I think she looks pretty beaten down by life, but she was a good looking woman.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying You've been beaten down your whole life through all sorts of well I don't know. You've been propped up. It's like Dolly.
Speaker 1:Part up pardon says it costs a lot of money to look this cheap anyway. So we were only in this party for one hour and, uh, in that one hour somebody smashed our windows out and stole a bunch of shit. And the bummer is, a lot of the shit that was stolen was stuff that we couldn't afford in the first place. So it was rental gear and the rental house was charging full price for, like, like very expensive cases that we never would have bought, that were really old. So, like you know, a, a, a case that they were saying was $1,700 for the case for, uh, walkies, like walkie talkies that we rented or something, and it was like, well, no, like we would never would have bought, but I guess our insurance didn't cover it and I don't know. I personally only had about a thousand dollars or maybe $2,000 worth of stuff stolen and, um, my insurance kind of covered it, minus like a $500 deductible. But the other guys had, you know, 20 plus thousand dollars stolen. One guy, um, one of the bosses, had a bunch of his, his excuse me, his collection of, like baseball cards or something that he'd had since he was a little kid was stolen, and also he had a handgun that was stolen and out of all that stuff, the only thing that was ever recovered was they found one of the walkie talkies in a pawn shop, like a year later. So that's it.
Speaker 1:Hmm, and it has changed. I mean that that shit, it's been fucking 14 years or something since then, but it has changed. I mean that that shit, it's been fucking 14 years or something since then, but it has it changed me forever. Like, if I go, if I'm on a job and all my equipment's in the car and I'm going to go eat somewhere, I'll always try to park where I can keep an eye on the car out the window while I'm eating.
Speaker 1:I and I always like would come home and I God, I wish I could just leave this stuff in the car and then unload the car in the in the morning Cause I'm so tired. But even if I, even if it was day where I drove out four hours to the job, filmed for 10 hours and then packed for an hour and then drove four hours back, I still would unload the car because I'm like I just can't leave this in my driveway all night. It changed me forever and so, yeah, that's why if I had a grip truck. I would not label it at all. Have you ever seen people get um, get a van wrapped or a truck wrapped or something with um, the the wrapping is is printed to make it look like the vehicle is covered in rust and holes and shit? Have?
Speaker 2:you seen this? It's like to make it look like a piece of shit.
Speaker 1:People get like fake rust and and you know, uh uh, paint peeling off and all this stuff on it so you can make a brand new ninety thousand dollar sprinter van.
Speaker 1:Look like you know an old beat-up construction workers truck with you know nothing valuable in it, so that's something you would do I would do that I would not do that I actually wouldn't, because I I think showing up at a job with that I'd be a little embarrassed. People are like fuck man, did we really hire the ghettoist grip truck in the whole fucking country? But no, I would ideally like it to just be gray and just clean and just nothing on it.
Speaker 2:Did I tell you that the sticker that I ordered? That took two weeks and was a total waste of?
Speaker 1:time ended up being garbage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were so pissed, so now I've already I've decided that I'm gonna go with a half half wrap on the truck and I've already like when are you doing that process? I've got some hail damage being repaired in like a month and a half from now, so right after that typical colorado life. Yeah, after I pick it up from there, I'm gonna take it to the uh the place. I'll already have the design and all that already hammered out, so it'll be ready to go well, send me a picture when you get it done.
Speaker 1:Let Let me know if it works for you.
Speaker 2:It's going to be dope, it's going to be dope Video bros. It's going to say video bros, we got those video hoes All right.
Speaker 1:So you were asking me to follow up about this confrontation. I wanted to have it work.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, let's. Let's end with that, because that's what we started with and we never really got to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So I think we talked about it on the last podcast, but I'll just recap it. There's a guy who is he's sort of my boss, I mean I guess, like he outranks me in my department, he's gay right.
Speaker 2:Is he the gay one?
Speaker 1:No, he's not the gay one, he's not gay.
Speaker 2:Although one guy thinks he's gay, I don't think he's not the gay one.
Speaker 1:He's not, although one guy thinks he's gay. I don't think he's gay and anyways, that's not part of the story, that doesn't matter at all. People are just people, yeah for sure. Definitely, love one, love wins anyway, his, um, his personal sexual preference, uh, having nothing to do with the story, he, uh, he's sort of a boss, um, but just barely, you know, he just outranks me a little bit.
Speaker 1:You know, really, I, the guy that hired both of us as our boss and then the DP, is our boss's boss, and you know, then they have to answer to production, and you know what I mean. So, uh, I'll put it this way, he doesn't have the authority to fire me because, uh, if he did, he would have by now. Um, we, he was very nice to me, very supportive, when we started and in fact at one point told me you're gonna be my right hand man. Uh, really really like you, and uh, I'm gonna train you and from now on, anytime I get a job as a key grip, you're gonna be my best boy, anytime I get a job as a best boy, you're're going to be my best boy Anytime.
Speaker 2:I get a job as a best boy, you're going to be my third yeah, You're my best.
Speaker 1:He literally said you're my favorite guy at work.
Speaker 2:And I thought it was kind of corny but also really sweet.
Speaker 1:You know, you're my favorite boy.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it was just like kind of mentoring me Was really mentoring me and supporting me in a way that none of the other guys are.
Speaker 1:Some people call it grooming. Right, he was really grooming me, um, no, uh, the other guys, like pretty much most of them. They kinda on day one, just saw how green I was and you know how much I needed to learn or whatever, and just immediately dismissed me and, just like you know, like they're not interested in helping me learn and, um, although one guy is uh, but actually two guys are, I guess I'm just really in my feelings about the fact that, like three or four guys, I don't know there's seven of us and one guy just like has no time for me fucking at all, know, there's seven of us and one guy just like has no time for me fucking at all. And then there's one position where they keep changing guys out. Guy Keep being like, oh, I got a better job, and then leaving, and then somebody else comes in and everybody that's coming to that position.
Speaker 1:There's been four guys in that position. None of them really seem to have any time for me, but anyway, we're outside shooting some exteriors in the parking lot, uh, and I see a, a bumper sticker on a car that's like fuck Joe Biden, you know, let's go, brandon, uh, fjb is what it says.
Speaker 2:Let's go, brandon.
Speaker 1:And uh, and I, just like I saw it and responded real quick, like before I even had time to think about, like, hey, you're at work, don't get into politics, let that be somebody else's problem. But instead I was just like whose fucking car is this? And it turns out it was that guy.
Speaker 2:He was like this is the epitome of you. This is why you this is what every time. This is why you're always nervous when you hire me when I'm, whenever I'm in public with you, I'm just like any. Moment it's gonna happen. I don't even know what it's gonna be, but it's gonna be something, and then it happens, it happens and I'm like there it is. That's the thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one time you got um I could tell you were really embarrassed cause we were talking to a plant like a wedding planner or something. And I just said something about how I'm tired of how all these modern hipster videographers um are are not color correcting their footage and just publishing log footage. Like I'm tired of this low contrast bullshit look that all these hipster videographers are doing. And I could tell you were really embarrassed I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 2:I do. I think about it every day. Oh, that's crazy. We should try. Later we'll try to figure out which wedding that was. I have no idea, though I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1:It was like just the way I was coming off was like I was just a little aggressive. It was a little too aggressive.
Speaker 2:I could probably think of a handful of other times, but that one doesn't ring a bell.
Speaker 1:Well name one when ring a bell. Well name one when we were in california doing a project together last year we only went to california.
Speaker 2:I was trying to be as vague as possible but, like when we were in california doing a project together, there was a moment where you were pretty upset about something that had happened, but it was still during during the reception portion of the event and I could just what had happened.
Speaker 1:I would look over the audio thing.
Speaker 2:I would look over at you in a crowd of 250 people and I could just see you pacing back and forth, talking to yourself. It was just you, pretty, pretty center stage, I would say, and compared to everybody else at the event, and you're walking around talking to yourself and pacing and like having a full-blown conversation with yourself while 250 people are like kind of standing around both of us and I was like I wonder how many other people notice him having a conversation with himself. You know what?
Speaker 2:I think, I think nobody, I think it's not that I don't get it, because I also I, when I'm by myself, I talk out loud, I think out loud what was it that I was angry?
Speaker 1:was it when they um, it was when we started the reception. People come in for the recording, you realize the recording wasn't getting any.
Speaker 2:You weren't getting a feed on the recording that we needed and then the dj couldn't figure out how to give us a yeah and then everything started before we could figure it out, and so you were like, you were like very upset about that yeah, because I don't. I don't like to not do the job honestly, I'm glad that you were upset about it because it's like, oh good, he cares so that I care that part I was like, okay, I'm glad he's upset about it, because at least it means he cares.
Speaker 2:But the part where I'm also like.
Speaker 1:this is why I keep fucking quitting weddings yeah.
Speaker 2:The part where you can't internalize it, though. That's the part where. I'm like, oh, he's got to work. You have to work on the internalization, you have to work on being able to suffer inside yourself and not it helps me to see you do it, cause you're really really good.
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm having the same fucking thoughts that you are, I'm having the same fucking thoughts that you are, and I'm not doing it on the outside, and so that's the only thing that I like. If I gave you, if I was like, hey, dustin, guess what, I'm gonna die tomorrow. Before I die, let me give you this piece of advice it would only be to learn to internalize the shit that's happening, so that you're not projecting this crazy homeless kind of vibe Because you're doing the same thing that a homeless person does on the street.
Speaker 1:Like a Vietnam guy.
Speaker 2:Where they're sitting there on the street corner and they're like fuck you, you faggot, Fuck you. And they're screaming at you and all you did was pull up to a red light. And they're like looking right at you and they're like fuck you, I'm going to murder your ass. And you're like oh, my God.
Speaker 1:You're like jesus, that's like you, except you know, videographer, except it, except? Everyone around me is wearing a tuxedo everybody around you is the fucking patriots quarterback hey, uh, now that you really should not have said that, uh, and also, he's not their quarterback anymore.
Speaker 2:They fired I'm sure they've. Uh, I'm sure they've gone through many parted ways, many a quarterback over the years so anyway.
Speaker 1:So at work I go, whose fucking car is this? And it turned out to be like the guy that's like mentoring me, that's like mentoring me, that's like kind of my boss, and and he's like it's mine, I'm a trump supporter and I go. Why would you? I go, then write it in your fucking diary, keep it in the voting booth, why are you putting your car?
Speaker 2:why are you trying to get in a fight? With every car on the highway how come you didn't say oh, I have a. I did record a podcast with a guy who's a Trump supporter.
Speaker 1:That would have been a better approach.
Speaker 2:That would have been a better approach.
Speaker 1:No, the better approach would have been to never say anything. I should have kept my fucking mouth shut and just never said anything to anybody.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing. I told you this already. You know what? I don't even think you're necessarily right about that, cause I am all about people's ability to just like have yeah, say what you want, have a conversation, but the key is to be like very respectful, because I think the, I think the one just this aggressive kind of lead up to it where it's like yeah, it almost shows like hey, I don't want to have a conversation about this, I just want to fucking voice my opinion, and I think that's just a turnoff to people.
Speaker 1:Well, no, you know what it is is like and I told you this already before.
Speaker 2:But that bumper sticker exists to shock people yeah, the whole point of it is for sure is to own the libs, right, right.
Speaker 1:And that's exactly what it did like. It saw me and it shocked. It's shocking to me it does.
Speaker 1:Actually you were it does, it's, it does. I was shook and it shook me to my core. And the other thing is, like the reason I said that is because I assumed I was in good company, because, like I always forget that a person in real life could be a Trump supporter. Like it's so shocking to me that anybody would ever like I would never meet somebody and assume they're, unless they're wearing that hat or you know they're like a 60 year old white man at a truck stop. Other than that, like I, I would never like you meet somebody and they're nice and they're supportive and you're getting along and they seem like a great guy, it would never cross my mind that they could be capable of supporting Trump. So it's shocking every single time when somebody tells me because, like I'll never understand why how a person can become a Trump supporter I can't wrap my head around can become a Trump supporter, I can't wrap my head around Like it's, he's such an obvious like con man, he's just such a, he's just the shittiest piece of shit of all time that it I never will assume that somebody might support that. So when you find out that somebody, when I find out that somebody supports Trump, I'm a hundred times out of a hundred. I'm shocked. I'm like what? Um? So yeah, I just like it's like I don't know, would you ever meet somebody and be like I bet that guy's a pedophile, it's that, it's that same thing. Like, oh, I bet this guy's a Nazi, I bet this guy is like one of the most evil people ever? I would never meet somebody like I bet that guy's a Trump voter, because I like to think better of people, but I don't know. So it surprised me and it caught me off guard and I just stuck my foot in my mouth. But since then the guy had a dramatic shift in the way he talks to me and treats me, in the sense that he basically pretends I don't exist anymore. He won't turn his face toward me when he, when we walk past each other. He doesn't say hi to me in the morning, and then he doesn't want me to help him at work. He doesn't want me to do my job.
Speaker 1:You know, anytime somebody tells me to do something, then I go to do it. If he's in the area, he's like you can go away, we don't need you. We got this Um and one of the. It got really awkward at one point cause he's up on a ladder. And so our boss goes hey, go over there and support that ladder.
Speaker 1:Like when one person's on a ladder, another person is supposed to be on the other side of the ladder holding it for safety or whatever. Like there's, you know there's, there's practices and standards here that that benefit everybody. Like we're supposed to do things the safe way, so you're not supposed to go up on a ladder by yourself, and so you know the our boss says go over there and support that ladder. And I go over there and he's like I'm fine, I got this, go away. He shoes me away.
Speaker 1:Then our boss's boss goes hey, go over there and support that ladder. Then I go, and then it happens again and it's like you would rather fucking fall off of a ladder in front of and it's, you know it's one thing if we're pre-rigging and there's only grips around, it's another thing when the actors are there, the directors and the ADs are. Like there's 30 people on set, every single department is there, and you still don't want to be practicing ladder safety. It's like you would rather fall off of a ladder in front of all these people and fucking shut down production than just work with somebody that didn't vote for Trump for five minutes.
Speaker 1:It's fucking crazy to me, but it's made it. Uh, it's made work really really awkward, because I already wasn't really fitting in with a lot of the guys just because I'm like a beginner. I think that they kind of dismissed me and, um, I don't know, I guess I'm just remarkably unlikable. So I'm like now eating lunch alone in my car and when I wake up in the morning I'm dreading going to work, cause I know that nobody likes me and nobody wants me there, and it feels exactly like high school, when I had no friends and everyone hated me. Um, yeah, so pretty rough week at the office.
Speaker 2:The job's over in four days, so you know I'll move on, having burned like nine bridges well, yesterday you were like very convinced that you were going to have a conversation with this person. Yeah, so what?
Speaker 1:happened with that. I waited, I let it go on for like a week, week and a half, of me going. I'm not going to address because first of all, I want to make sure that I'm right. I hate to go like hey man, why do you hate me now? Why are you treating me different? And just him. Just be like I didn't sleep last night and it's nothing to do with you. Like I wanted to make sure it was about me, but it definitely is.
Speaker 1:There's just too many signs Like he's just he talks to me differently than everyone else and like one thing is like we're having a lot of downtime and we're all sitting around on our phones or something. If he sees like a really funny meme, he'll show it to the other guys and he won't ever show it to me. Like that's a real sign of like yeah, I'm definitely fucking not one of the cool kids, like I'm on, like he just acts like I'm not fucking there and then you see him with one of the other guys and they're all buddy, buddy and and all this stuff. And also, um, when he still liked me, he talked a bunch of shit about somebody else. So I know what it looks like when he doesn't like somebody and he's treating me the same way he's treating that that guy.
Speaker 1:There was a guy that, um, after the first week he called me and said, hey, we're firing this guy and you're getting a promotion. And then that never happened. But I see the way he treats him and that's the way he treats me now. So I'm in with that guy. Uh, but yeah, work fucking sucks Now, work fucking. Uh, it sucks. Uh, but yeah, work fucking sucks Now, work fucking. Uh it sucks. It's. Uh, I don't like not being liked, but for a lot of my life I've been not liked and I've been out of work for so long and I've been, you know, like I haven't worked in a large office with a lot of people, like I don't put myself in a lot of social situations, and so I kind of forgot how much I'm an outcast and being back on the job is like, oh yeah, all my peers hate me, and they have since kindergarten.
Speaker 1:Now I remember I'm not cool. So, yeah, I had a really depressing week just remembering like, oh yeah, I don't fit in society. That's why I started my own business, that's why I have to take a job where I'm the boss and all my clients are people that I only interact with just very briefly. I'm not a likable person, which is probably why no one listens to this podcast.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't go that far I wouldn't go, that far wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you like me, but you're, I mean you know you're like we got like three friends.
Speaker 2:We got like we got like 20 listeners, bro, there's at least 20 people that could put up with you yeah, but they're probably hate listening and look. We have so much in common. We picked the same color shirt to wear today.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We didn't plan it.
Speaker 1:Technically, this is a shirt I wore to work yesterday and then fell asleep on the couch in last night.
Speaker 2:Dude, I've been wearing the same clothes for like three days now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you didn't work 12 hours on set yesterday.
Speaker 2:It's way nastier for me.
Speaker 1:I need to shower that is Because I had the day off today. I didn't force my cause. I, I hate uh, I have to sneeze, fuck.
Speaker 2:Oh gross Yikes.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I think it's going to happen again. Oh fuck, there's a lot of pollen around this week. Yeah, I've had the same issue. I hate showering when I come home, be just because I'm. You know, it's already been a long day and I'm exhausted and I it feels like a chore. But then I hate getting into bed dirty even worse. And I hate having to shower in the morning because I'm like you know I'm already tired and you know I don't know, but I've been forcing myself to every night, take a shower so that I can sleep better and so that I don't have so much on my plate when I first wake up. But last night I knew that I didn't have work today, so I allowed myself to just fall asleep on the couch and then go to bed dirty and I'm wearing the same shirt.
Speaker 2:Well, I think we've reached the end of the podcast when we start talking about our laundry situation.
Speaker 1:Probably consider editing out the entire shirt conversation. That wasn't entertaining to anyone. That should not be in the podcast. I can't imagine anyone caring about my shower schedule.
Speaker 2:Maybe next time we'll talk about some video-related stuff, who knows? Probably not. Until next time, everybody oh hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:I have a video-related thing that I want to say. So they brought in a second unit this week.
Speaker 2:Key unit.
Speaker 1:So a different director and a different DP, and I wasn't on the second unit officially, but they were shooting at the same location for part of the day and we were so slow that our boss was like hey, go over there and see if they need any help. And I ended up staying with them for a couple hours and I fit in over there. So much better, because that DP works exactly the same way I was working, whereas like the DP on the show now, like everything he's doing is new to me, he's using techniques I have never used and you know it's just a lot of terminology that I don't recognize. And so when I was over with this other crew, like it was exactly the way I used to light stuff, you know, when I was working with Drake and we would do commercial stuff and I was the DP, it's exactly the way I do my short films. It's exactly the way I used to light stuff when I worked with John, and so it was super comfortable and super familiar. But what was interesting was, you know, I talked to the director and he was saying that this DP, uh, he was like yeah, you'll meet him tomorrow and he's like we share the same brain. He's like we, we, you know we they had shot a bunch, they've done a bunch of feature films together and stuff. And he was like we this, like we share the same brain or whatever. And so I got to watch them work and I realized like, oh yeah, like it is cool when you work with somebody and you're that connected with them and you're that on the same page and stuff.
Speaker 1:And it did make me a little sad because I'm like, oh, I don't really have anyone like that. I I maybe the closest I can think of is out here is like me and my audio guy. I like working with him really well, now that we've done like four projects together. We, you know, you know we're, we're kind of comfortable like that. But like there is no director that I want to DP for and there's no DP that I want to direct for right now that we're like super, super close with and I even like you and me, I like working with you a lot, I like working for you a lot, but like our shooting styles way different, our, our approach is way different. We're not really that on the same page, um, different. We're not really that on the same page, um, I don't know, I guess I'm just saying I always wish I. I several times have tried to have a partner and it's never worked out. And watching those two guys work together, I did get really jealous and sad of like, oh man, I wish I had. I wish I had another guy, that the two of us were like locked in, like that Cause. I haven't felt that way since my very first boss, mentor, jonathan.
Speaker 1:You know, we worked together for like two years, starting when I was in college, so 2010, 11, kind of 12,.
Speaker 1:We were like that's some of the. The most fun I've ever had editing was when we would be, uh, sitting in my office together and I would have my hands at the keyboard and he'd be sitting next to me with a dip in his mouth and a spit cup and we would edit and make choices together and throw ideas back and forth and you know, and then when we were shooting, like we would, we were studying other videographers together, we were learning together and, like we were, you know, sharing a brain and you know we worked together like 12 hour days, seven days a week for like two years straight and, like some of the, it's the most, it's the best stuff I've ever done Like I was. I spent that much time with John, but that was very much. He's the boss and I'm the whipping boy. Um, you know, and like I don't know, I just never been that close to them. It just it made me kind of sad that I don't have a partner like that. All right, that's it. We'll talk to you next week.